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J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 10:55 am
AMP Security Scam

There are amazing benifits to living in West Philadelphia- great access to cultural events, restaurants, public transport. I love being able to walk to work, the movie theater and my favorite resturant. Every Tuesday and Thursday morning I skip out my door to go to 6:30am yoga to teachers that know my name. Down the block, at the little market, the guy behind the counter asks me about Jared's ankle, and how Brendan is doing living in Ireland. There is a feeling of community here, but also, a great feeling of diversity and access to some amazing events and people - all within skipping distance of my doorstep.

There are also downsides of living in a highly populated area - and though I prefer to focus on the positive, this was just so weird, and off-putting that I feel I need to write about it.

Two people came to my house last night at about 8:30pm, threatened me and tried to get into my house.There was a man and a woman, both college age, blond, in blue polo shirts with their logo embroidered on the shirt and shorts. They were preppy and good looking, and immediately, I was suspicious. There was just something too friendly, too fake about them both. The guy did all the talking - he held a clipboard and told me that his company (AMP) was the supplier for my security system and did I know where my phone lines were?

I told him that I was not interested in purchasing a new security system, and that we were quite happy with what we have.

He replied that people often are happy - and at this point, he looked away from me and into my window. . .until something bad happens.

At this point, I felt threatened and annoyed.

He asked if he could see our system, if it was voice activated, if my phone lines were protected. He claimed to know details about my home security (which he obviously didn't know, because his guesses were all wrong) He wanted to come into my house and install a system "for free" and "for the advertising" in our neighborhood. Of course, all this would require that I would let him in my house.

Right. So. I asked him if he had a business card. He said no because his office had "gone green". He provided no ID at all.

I told him that if he walks around my neighborhood at 8:30pm at night with no ID, no business card and asking to get into peoples houses, asking about their security, that people would call the cops on him. At this point, both of them left with some haste.

All and all, very creepy. At the best, these salespeople have terrible business practices - threatening customers! no ID! -and at the worst, they are criminals who are attempting to enter your house. Do not open your house to these people!


Apparently, according to these sites, they really could be either one.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/447/RipOff0447549.htm
http://www.monitronics.com/SecurityScamAlert/tabid/117/Default.aspx
http://loudounextra.washingtonpost.com/news/2009/jun/16/sheriffs-office-warns-against-door--door-sales-fra/?local

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kylecassidy
kylecassidy
kyle cassidy
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:09 pm (UTC)

reposting this to the UC neighbors mailing list. thanks for the heads-up.


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blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:18 pm (UTC)

Thank you Kyle. I really love my neighborhood - for the most part it's all local food, alert neighbors, great theater and bouncing babies in this corner of the sky- but this was just a little too odd to let go. I'll have to blog about one of the many wonderful things that happen here to make up for it! :-)


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aoi_no_yume
Aoi
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)

it might not have been a bad idea to call the police anyway, get their descriptions down. the next neighbor might not be so savvy as you. ;)

*hugs*

also, your neighborhood? it rocks. if i were to live in philly, it's where i'd want to be.


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blackwell
blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:27 pm (UTC)

I did end up calling the cops to let them know. I really hope they are just terrible, stupid sales-people who are just doing their job poorly in order to get people to buy their security system.

They just did a seriously creepy job at sales.

I love my neighborhood. It's almost utopian at times. Sure, it has some issues, but it's also wonderful in many ways.


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aoi_no_yume
Aoi
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:32 pm (UTC)

eh, every place has it's issues. your neighborhood is vibrant and alive in a way that so many aren't. plus, you and jared live there. that increases it's fantasticness right there. :D


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kylecassidy
kylecassidy
kyle cassidy
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:31 pm (UTC)

twice now i've had someone come to the door (same guy each time, but a year apart) saying he was a college student, he'd just moved in and he'd gotten locked out of his house across the street -- he had the lock-smith over there but they wanted $20 to open the door -- and he'd bring it right back because his wallet was on the table. i posted about it (both times) to the UC Neighbors mailing list and we were able to track his progress around the neighborhood because sure enough, he'd show up at someone elses door 20 minutes later. forewarned is fivearmed or something like that....


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blackwell
blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:33 pm (UTC)

Oh, wow. What a con!

I suppose that open communication between neighbors is what helps keep our neighborhood the awesome place it is to live in. :-)


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kylecassidy
kylecassidy
kyle cassidy
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:35 pm (UTC)

the internet has replaced the clothes line for gossip.....


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kylecassidy
kylecassidy
kyle cassidy
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:32 pm (UTC)

oh, you should repost this to [info]west_philly to let the other peeps know.


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blackwell
blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:41 pm (UTC)

Done!


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joran
joran
fluffytime
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:22 pm (UTC)

This makes me want to stand in front of your house with a bat. ::hiss:: But you are a lady, and you scared them off good.


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J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:25 pm (UTC)

Haha! Two can play the threatening innuendo game!

"You know," I said "MOST people would call the police if two people came to the door with no ID asking about security system. My neighbors are VERY alert and never hesitate to call the cops if they see anything they feel is suspicious. Yes, indeed, someone MAY call the cops, I think. At any time."


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erinmuse
erinmuse
Erin, Esq.
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:23 pm (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I'm in Center City, but I'll let my building know anyway.


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blackwell
blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:28 pm (UTC)

I think it's a good thing to spread the word around. At the very best, it's a terrible way to do business. At the worst, it's a con to get into your house and hurt you.


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stregapez
stregapez
A Happy Pessimist
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:38 pm (UTC)

I didn't hear the whole conversation, but they were creepy. Intuition was right!


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blackwell
blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 03:41 pm (UTC)

Very creepy! I was glad that I had friends in the house or I would have been completely creeped out!


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viva_hater
viva_hater
viva_hater
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 05:43 pm (UTC)

Sheesh! Don't be afraid to try the Laurah NR tactic: keep a cop flashlight by the door and offer to help the nice man readjust his nose.


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blackwell
blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 06:48 pm (UTC)

Haha! Not a bad idea!


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pancom
pancom
PanCom
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 06:34 pm (UTC)

I'm glad to hear you did call the cops. "Gone green," my ass.


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blackwell
blackwell
J.R. Blackwell
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 06:49 pm (UTC)

I figured that they are either really terrible salespeople or they were actual criminals. Better safe than sorry!


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pancom
pancom
PanCom
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 06:51 pm (UTC)

My money is on the latter. Any "security" company that would send salespeople out without credentials deserves to go bankrupt.


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attitude_boy
attitude_boy
attitude_boy
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 06:45 pm (UTC)

Congratulations for keeping your head and standing your ground.


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faetea
faetea
allison j. sebastian
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 07:39 pm (UTC)

Maybe they are vampires.


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beemanfunk
beemanfunk
Da Beeman
Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 11:18 pm (UTC)

What? Seriously? Man, as much as I miss Philly, it's crap like that where I don't miss it all that much. Glad you didn't get conned or hurt.

People ask about me? I feel loved. :P


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